As far as I know the plants emerged unscathed. Take joy in the fact that they were a big hit, I suppose.
I've been thinking about it lately. For a minute I thought it might be fun to do one of those horoscope things, you know the ones where your birthday supposedly says something about you? And just reverse-engineer it out of whichever one seemed to suit me best.
I'm actually supposing the opposite of taking joy. Is there a term for it? Taking misery? I won't be able to look at another fake leafy palm the same way ever again.
But there's an idea. I know a thing or two about astrology, though I'm supposing the kind you're thinking of must be different from my notion of it. I had the Rtawahists look into my constellation in first year, if I recall. I believe mine was the Paradisaea.
...At least, I'm pretty sure they didn't. It's not like I asked. Logistically it just seems like a nightmare to try to enact.
I'm familiar with a few kinds of astrology, but not that one. A lot of it is sort of moot anyway, when I have no idea what sort of calendar system my world of origin might've used. I don't even know if they had stars to begin with. I presume they had some manner of superstition.
Yours sounds...vaguely familiar, though I can't quite place why. Something about a bird? One that can't touch the ground?
I don't know how to explain this to you, Ghost, but sometimes it gets everywhere. Don't ask me why or how I know this and I don't even want to know the face you're making right now, and you know what we're going to move on from this topic for my sanity, but just know, Ghost, that the plants can very well be collateral damage, and that really isn't fair for the plants. Or me. I'm also collateral damage. Oh, Archons.
And I'm surprised you've the instinct for it - yes, the Huma bird is also known as the Paradisaea. I suppose this is one of those stories that make it fine between universes. Well, why not simply use the astrological framework of this world until you know more about yourself? There's an argument to be made about self-determination there.
It doesn't have to, per se, but that's a better question to ask of its people. Did the people here want one? Because if they did, and they looked to the skies, then nothing would have stopped that framework from coming into fruition, even if it defies all logic and common sense. For example, we may not know the culture of the people who were once here, but the hundred or so people we do have here can form their own culture. And if we decide that we want the stars to mean something, then one of us will pick up a pen and do something about it.
Are you really suggesting that I design an entire mythology just for the sake of turning around and using that mythology to give myself a thematically appropriate date of birth?
[ says kaveh, the man who mentioned to alhaitham that they ought to make a conlang to test out the language translation capabilities of this place and they actually went and made a language in six weeks, nbd - ]
You need a birthday, you'd like it to have astrological significance, and this place doesn't seem to have any yet. The logic is sound. Also, this very much means that if your system is robust enough, anyone who comes after who don't know their birthdays will be able to pick one following your system.
Once upon a time there lived a man who fired a gunshot into a wall, then painted a target around the place the bullet landed as proof of his expert marksmanship. My birthdate's astrological significance would be about as valid as his bullseye.
Besides, inventing mythology for one's own self-benefit generally ends badly for everyone concerned, doesn't it?
Counterpoint: all mythology was invented for self-benefit, for why else would a story ever be told? It's what people do with it that counts, and I doubt you're going to end an civilisation with your conjectures on whether that cluster of stars looks like a Sumpterbeast trying to get at the last apple in the basket.
I say shoot, anyway. The only person for whom the bullseye ought to have meaning is you. So what if it's a little ridiculous?
You also said that at critical junctures of the gala planning process; look at the shape of your regret now.
And a Sumpterbeast is a beast of burden endemic to Sumeru. They were domesticated for their strength, and our transportation networks couldn't exist without them. They're also quite friendly to boot. Here.
Planning a gala is slightly more effort than asking you to elaborate on a reference about your native world. But only slightly, given how much you like to elaborate.
I empathize with the Sumpterbeast, though. I suppose that's a natural reaction to have, when obstacles get between something and the thing one wants.
Rude. And how much worse off are you from me elaborating on the existence of Sumpterbeasts, hm?
Genuinely, though, I think you have room to empathise with them even more than you already do. Yes, this is an old argument, but yes, I will not stop. Be inspired by their unreasonable tenacity. You stop yourself to your own detriment.
No, I don't have to do anything. But I'm rather enjoying going out of my way to do so. If I've been accused of unreasonable tenacity, then it follows that I ought to live up to expectations, don't you think?
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And? Have you chosen one for yourself?
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I've been thinking about it lately. For a minute I thought it might be fun to do one of those horoscope things, you know the ones where your birthday supposedly says something about you? And just reverse-engineer it out of whichever one seemed to suit me best.
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But there's an idea. I know a thing or two about astrology, though I'm supposing the kind you're thinking of must be different from my notion of it.
I had the Rtawahists look into my constellation in first year, if I recall. I believe mine was the Paradisaea.
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...At least, I'm pretty sure they didn't. It's not like I asked. Logistically it just seems like a nightmare to try to enact.
I'm familiar with a few kinds of astrology, but not that one. A lot of it is sort of moot anyway, when I have no idea what sort of calendar system my world of origin might've used. I don't even know if they had stars to begin with. I presume they had some manner of superstition.
Yours sounds...vaguely familiar, though I can't quite place why. Something about a bird? One that can't touch the ground?
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And I'm surprised you've the instinct for it - yes, the Huma bird is also known as the Paradisaea. I suppose this is one of those stories that make it fine between universes.
Well, why not simply use the astrological framework of this world until you know more about yourself? There's an argument to be made about self-determination there.
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yeah i'm not asking anything more thanks
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It doesn't have to, per se, but that's a better question to ask of its people.
Did the people here want one? Because if they did, and they looked to the skies, then nothing would have stopped that framework from coming into fruition, even if it defies all logic and common sense.
For example, we may not know the culture of the people who were once here, but the hundred or so people we do have here can form their own culture. And if we decide that we want the stars to mean something, then one of us will pick up a pen and do something about it.
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[ says kaveh, the man who mentioned to alhaitham that they ought to make a conlang to test out the language translation capabilities of this place and they actually went and made a language in six weeks, nbd - ]
You need a birthday, you'd like it to have astrological significance, and this place doesn't seem to have any yet. The logic is sound.
Also, this very much means that if your system is robust enough, anyone who comes after who don't know their birthdays will be able to pick one following your system.
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Besides, inventing mythology for one's own self-benefit generally ends badly for everyone concerned, doesn't it?
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I say shoot, anyway. The only person for whom the bullseye ought to have meaning is you. So what if it's a little ridiculous?
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What is a Sumpterbeast?
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And a Sumpterbeast is a beast of burden endemic to Sumeru. They were domesticated for their strength, and our transportation networks couldn't exist without them. They're also quite friendly to boot. Here.
[ a moment later, a detailed sketch. ]
Well, I say they're gentle, but if you ever get between them and a bushel of apples, all bets are off.
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I empathize with the Sumpterbeast, though. I suppose that's a natural reaction to have, when obstacles get between something and the thing one wants.
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Genuinely, though, I think you have room to empathise with them even more than you already do. Yes, this is an old argument, but yes, I will not stop. Be inspired by their unreasonable tenacity. You stop yourself to your own detriment.
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You don't HAVE to take every possible opportunity to convince me of my apparent brilliance, Kaveh.
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